No matter how many times the incident was replayed, no one could be certain beyond doubt that Sergio Ramos had fouled Neymar in last month's clásico. Some people, squinting hard and slowing down the replay as much as possible, claimed that they could see the slightest of touches from Ramos, while others insisted that Neymar had made the most of what was minimal contact at best and conned the referee. Even after countless viewings, the evidence was inconclusive.
These are unexpectedly heady times for San Lorenzo. They are the Argentinian champions, and Wednesday night's 1-0 over Grêmio in the first leg of their last-16 tie took them a step closer to winning the Copa Libertadores for the first time. There's a long way to go yet, but this is a ferociously competitive side blessed with an exceptional young forward in Ángel Correa and, moreover, they are playing with a self-belief that defies rational explanation.
A 13th, Jason Puncheon, is absent and still handing over his shirt to a fan by the billboards but the sea of smiles beyond the line tells its own story. Mid-table obscurity, out of the glare of European pursuit or relegation concern, has rarely felt this triumphant.
Everyone has experienced that crushing silence that comes when a conversation with someone you don't really know or like is grinding to an inevitable halt.